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Message Number: 2475 - Tuesday, November 13, 2018 16:50:44 EST
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Name:  Bill Hartland
Service Number:  RMB/X 3050
Hometown:  Congresbury
Instrument/s:  Solo Clart
E - mail:  ehadmiral@gmail.com
Comments:

Much Ado about Nothing?

Well my comments appear to disappoint about the Reunion in Pompey, which I have attended on occasion.... It appears that a redaction on my part is called for, so, I therefore redact my comments without an actual apology. [Editor] How typical!

Please....... those who perhaps like myself who really don't understand the church organ, view the following link.

https://youtu.be/CibdzsPrIkY

Yours aye,

Bill.

WEBMASTER: I have edited this message to give it more clarity and request this case closed as we are NOT a forum and as email addresses are available as is required, any further banter can be done on a personal level. As for the organ and its new addition..................as previously mentioned by myself as having begun my musical career as a boy chorister and having sung to many accompaniments by church and cathedral instruments, all I can say about this particular organ is.............c'est magnifique! Say no more!

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Message Number: 2474 - Sunday, November 11, 2018 00:02:33 EST
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Name:  Adrian Brett
Service Number:  RMB 3730
Hometown:  London/Folkestone
Instrument/s:  Flute and Piano
E - mail:  adrianjohnbrett@gmail.com
Comments:

It was most gracious of Jem Tugwood to apologise for his mistake...and even more gracious of me not to have named him as the recent perpetrator of the misquote!! He is however in very good company for changing the order of those five words, probably by accident in his case. Richard Valentine has included part of the Daily Telegraph account of the origins of the poem but omitted the title of their piece....yes you have guessed :"They shall not grow old"....!! And the Peter Jackson film on BBC is titled "They shall not grow old"! That is what prompted my original post. Can you imagine the opening of Hamlet's Soliloquoy rendered as "To be or to be not, that is the question.". It may seem like nothing but poets know what they are doing and their intellectual property needs respect, protection and accuracy through correctly quoting their original words.

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Message Number: 2473 - Saturday, November 10, 2018 22:51:05 EST
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Name:  Pat ‘Pusser’ Hill
Service Number:  Q004163
Hometown:  Portsmouth
Instrument/s:  Euph/Cello
E - mail:  pusserhill@ntlworld.com
Comments:

Hello Friends,

The BBC recently ran a programme about this historic anniversary. In the title they misquote Binyon. I have yet to receive a response to my email in which I asked if the error was deliberate.

This is not the only line, or word, Binyon’s in poem that has had a question mark over it. In his original text, and submission to The Times (I believe) he wrote, “.......nor the years contemn.” When published contemn had been substituted with condemn. I could not find any record of fingers pointing at editors, type setters or original manuscript proof readers. Mr Binyon chose to allow it.

I might pipe up about the Cathedral organ and the additional hardware when we all think it has been forgotten.

Take care everyone!

Pat H.

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Message Number: 2472 - Saturday, November 10, 2018 16:53:44 EST
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Name:  Richard Valentine
Service Number:  RMB 4069
E - mail:  richval1951@gmail.com
Comments:

**They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:

**On his 70th birthday in August 1939, Laurence Binyon explained that the idea for his most famous poem came to him on a clifftop at Polzeath in Cornwall: ‘‘The stanza ‘They Shall Grow Not Old’ was written first and dictated the rhythmical movement of the whole poem.’’ The words of these four crucial lines beat sonorously in monosyllables, echoing the solemn, funereal drums of the second stanza. It is this sombre, repetitive rhythm that invests the fourth stanza with such enduring power when read aloud in public.

Enough Said!

Dickie V

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Message Number: 2471 - Saturday, November 10, 2018 11:31:10 EST
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Name:  Jem Tugwood
Service Number:  RMB 3701
Hometown:  Worthing
Instrument/s:  Clart Alto vln
E - mail:  jemtugwood@sky.com
Comments:

Hi Dickie,

Having just read Adrian’s Comment re the words of Binyon “They shall not grow old” etc. I totally agree and if perhaps you could edit the incorrect order of words to “they shall grow not old” I would be most grateful.

I guess submitting a report sometime after the event made me a trifle careless and didn’t pay proper attention when quoting quotes for which I apologise to all my readers..............., I should have listened to what my mother told me, trouble is, when someone once said to me after repeating those words “Why, what did she tell you?” I had to reply “Don’t know, I wasn’t listening!”

My remarks about the “Trumpets de Maris” however, still stand,

Best wishes

Jem

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Message Number: 2470 - Saturday, November 10, 2018 08:54:35 EST
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Name:  Bill Hartland
Service Number:  rmb/x 3050
Hometown:  Congresbury
Instrument/s:  Solo Clart
E - mail:  ehadmiral@gmail.com
Comments:

Hi Everyone

I note the disparity of opinion of my previous entry. Obs taken, so, I will say no more, but, I hope that the following Link will satisfy your comments.


https://youtu.be/ck4sN5sb-hM


Adrian, I will be in touch on your obs directly with you on email.

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Message Number: 2469 - Friday, November 9, 2018 10:11:17 EST
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Name:  Dave Lambert
Service Number:  RMB3997
Hometown:  Plymouth
Instrument/s:  clarinet
E - mail:  lambertd50@yahoo.co.uk
Comments:

Can anybody help, please. At present, I don't have access to facebook and I would like to get in touch with Alan Brooker re. the Chatham reunion next year.

Many thanks in advance

Dave

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Message Number: 2468 - Friday, November 9, 2018 03:51:06 EST
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Name:  Adrian Brett
Service Number:  RMB 3730
Hometown:  London/Folkestone
Instrument/s:  Flute and Piano
E - mail:  adrianjohnbrett@gmail.com
Comments:

My dear Richard,

At the risk of being considered a curmudgeonly old pedant may I be allowed to comment upon a really annoying and commonly held misquotation repeated on your website? This has been further exacerbated by the title of a recent film. The correct quotation is: " They shall grow not old as we that are left grow not old".....and NOT "They shall not grow old etc." This may seem a trifle to some but to a poet to have a line misquoted is like a composer having his notes changed. The original words emphasise the active verb "grow" and bring attention to LIFE and living (albeit after death) whereas the misquote draws the reader to the negative. I am certain that the poet knew this only too well and had he wished to underline the negative he would have chosen the too frequently misquoted words.....particularly during this centenary period.

Adrian

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